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牛鳳岐:“醫學測量”、“醫學計量學”和“醫學計量器具”
發布時間:2014-8-31 21:27:38

《zhongguoyiliaoqixiexinxi》zazhijinniandi1qikandenglezuozhewangyingguanyu“yixuejiliang”gainianjitediandewenzhang,bushaoduzhetichuyiyihuoxincunyiwen,feichangxiwangquanweirenshinenggoudayijiehuo。zaizhe,jinnianlai,guoneiyouguanbumenxiangjizujianle“linchuangyixuejiliang”he“yixuejiliang”lianggejishuweiyuanhui;zaijiliangzhuanyedewangzhanshang,huanpiyou“yixuejiliang”bankuai。danyihandeshi,duiyuzhiguanzhongyaode“yixueceliang”、“yixuejiliangxue”he“yixuejiliangqiju”gainian,tamendoubucengzuochuguojieding。zhongguokexueyuanshengxuesuoniufengqijiaoshoushijiankuayiliaoqixiebiaozhunhuahejiliangliangdalingyu,qiexuewenshenhoudelaozhuanjia,weicitedicaifangleta。

jizhe:niulaoshininhao!zuowei《zhongguoyiliaoqixiexinxi》zazhidebianwei、zhuangaorenheduzhe,ninkenengyijingkandaolejinniandi1qishangkandengde,zuozhewangyingguanyuyixuejiliangdewenzhang。jianyuzheyiwentidezhongyaoxing,xiangmafanninjiu“yixueceliang”、“yixuejiliangxue”he“yixuejiliangqiju”degainian、jiedinggeiyizhijiao。

niufengqi:zhijiaobuganshuo。“yixueceliang”、“yixuejiliangxue”he“yixuejiliangqiju”dejieding,shiwojinianlaiyizhizaixuexihesikaodewenti。ninshuodeneipianwenzhangwokanle,duiqizhongdeyixiedingyihelunshuyehennangoutong,henyuanyiyudajiayiqitaolun。

|ag手机客户端二维码jizhe:zaininsuojiandeguoneiwaiwenxianzhong,you“yixueceliang”、“yixuejiliangxue”he“yixuejiliangqiju”detifahedingyima?

niufengqi:wosuolejiedeqingkuangshi:

(1)guanyu“yixueceliang”detifa,guoneiweijianguo,danyou“shengwuyixueceliang”detifa;guowaiwenxianzhong,“medical measurement”detifajishaojian。

(2)guanyu“yixuejiliangxue”,youyuguoneijiliangbumenzijizhidingdejiliangjishuguifanjjg1001《tongyongjiliangshuyujidingyi》weibeiguojitongxinggainian,ba“celiang”he“shixiandanweitongyi、liangzhizhunquekekaodehuodong”douhunchengwei“jiliang”,erqie“shixiandanweitongyi、liangzhizhunquekekaodehuodong”he“jiliangxue”youduiyingtongyigeyingwendanci“metrology”,gunanyijiandandifenbianhepanduanqisuocheng“yixuejiliang”daodizhishenme;yingwenwenxianzhongqueshiyou“medical metrology”detifa,danweigeichuguodingyi。

|ag手机客户端二维码(3)guanyu“yixuejiliangqiju”,guoneiyoutifawudingyi,ranerqueyourenliechuleyousanbufengouchengdemingdan:diyibufen,shi《qiangjianmulu》zhongzhenzhengyongyuyixuelinchuangzaitihelitijianyandeyiqishebei;dierbufenshisuowei“yiyongsanyuan”;disanbufenshijibuzai《qiangjianmulu》zhong,youbushuyu“yiyongsanyuan”demrihepet。yongyingwenjiansuo,queshibufa“medical measuring instrument”detifa,danxikandoushichuzizhongguode“tutechanpin”,guojibiaozhunhuazuzhi(iso) 、guojidiangongweiyuanhui(iec)、yingguoguojiawuliyanjiusuo(npl)、meiguoguojiabiaozhunyuligongyanjiusuo(nist)、deguojishuwuliyanjiusuo(ptb)dengwudaquanweijigoujunbucengtichuguo。

|ag手机客户端二维码jizhe:anzhaoluojiguanxi,nongqingle“yixueceliang”,caihaodingyi“yixuejiliangxue”he“yixuejiliangqiju”。ninrenweigairuhedingyi“yixueceliang”ni?

niufengqi:yixueshiyanjiuhejiejuerentijibing(sunshang)zhenduan、jianhu、zhiliao、huanjie、kangfujirenshenkongzhidexueke。jiranjihe、lixue、diancixue、rexue、wuxiandian、shipin、dianlifushe、guangxue、shengxue、huaxuedengxuekezhong,jiyuduijiheliang、lixueliangdengdeceliangerchengwei“jiheceliang”、“lixueceliang”deng,neime“yixueceliang”jiuyinggaishizhi“duiyixueliangdeceliang”。dangran,congxingshishangkan,zhongwenwenxianzhongqueshizhaobudao“yixueliang”zheyishuyu,yingwenwenxianzhongyezhaobudao“medical quantity”;dancongshizhishanghedaolishangkan,miaoshurentijiepoujiegou、shengmingxianxiang、shengligongneng、binglitezheng,shuyuyixuelingyuzhuanyongdezhongduolihuacanshu,doukeyichengwei“yixueliang”。duitamendeceliang,jiushiduiyixueliangdeceliang,yejiushi“yixueceliang”。

jizhe:nei“yixuejiliangxue”dedingyini?

niufengqi:zai《tongyongjiliangshuyujidingyi》zhong,yuguojijieguide“jiliangxue”dedingyishi“guanyuceliangdekexue”,xiudingbanzhengqiuyijiangaozhongdedingyishi“guanyuceliangjiqiyingyongdekexue”。zhaocileibi,“yixuejiliangxue”dedingyijiuyingshi“guanyuyixueceliangdekexue”huo“guanyuyixueceliangjiqiyingyongdekexue”。wangyingwenzhangzhongsuodingyide“yixuejiliang”,celiangduixiangshiyiqishebei,erfei“yixueliang”,gubushi“yixueceliang”;dantadedingyiyebushizhi“shixiandanweitongyi、liangzhizhunquekekaodehuodong”,yinweizuoweiduixiangdeyiliaoqixie,henduobufuhejiliangqijudingyi,bushijiliangqiju,buguijiliangbumenjiancehejianguan。

jizhe:youleqianliangge,“yixuejiliangqiju”dedingyizhaoliyinggaibunangeichu。

niufengqi:shide。zanmenyirancaiyongleibifa。zai《tongyongjiliangshuyujidingyi》zhong,guanyu“celiangyiqi、jiliangqiju”dedingyishi“dandudihuozheliantongfuzhushebeiyiqiyongyijinxingceliangdeqiju”,xiudingbenzhengqiuyijiangaozhongdedingyishi“danduhuoyuyigehuoduogefuzhushebeizuhe,yongyujinxingceliangdezhuangzhi”。juci,“yixuejiliangqiju”dedingyijiuyinggaishi“dandudihuozheliantongfuzhushebeiyiqiyongyijinxingyixueceliangdeqiju”,huozhebiaoshuwei“danduhuoyuyigehuoduogefuzhushebeizuhe,yongyujinxingyixueceliangdezhuangzhi”。

jizhe:guanyu“yixueceliangqiju”dejieding,guojishangyoumeiyoukegongjiejiandexianlini?

niufengqi:guowaimeiyou“yixuejiliangqiju”detifa,danoumengwenjianzhongyou“daiyoucelianggongnengdeyiliaoqixie”detifa,erqiehuangeichuledingyihuochengpandingbiaozhun,neirongshi:

|ag手机客户端二维码diyitiao,zhizaoshangyizaijianggaiqixieyongyudingliangceliangshenglihuojiepoucanshu,huozheceliangsongzhihuoquzirentidenenglianghuowuzhideliang(duoshao),huozheceliangzhezhongnenglianghuowuzhidekeyongyudingxingdetexing。

diertiao,celiangjieguoyifadingdanweixianshi,huozheyuyongfadingdanweizhishidezhishaoyigecankaozhijinxingbijiao,kanshifoufuheyuxianyuedingdeguiding。

disantiao,zhizaodezhiliangyaoqiubaokuoceliangzhunquedu,qiemingquezhichuhuobuyaneryu,rudabudaoyudingdezhunquedu,kenengduihuanzhedejiankangheanquanchanshengxianzhudeyouhaizuoyong。

wenjianzhonghuantebieqiangdiao,zhiyoutongshijubeizhesanxiangtezheng,caikeliewei“daiyoucelianggongnengdeyiliaoqixie”。

jizhe:oumengwenjianzhongyoujulishuomingma?

|ag手机客户端二维码niufengqi:youde。suojudelizibaokuo:celiangrentiwendudewuyuanqixie、baokuowuyuanwenduxianshidenaizui、zhishirentiwendugaoyuhuodiyuzhidingshuzhideqixie、celiangxueyadewuyuanfeiqinruxingqixie、celianggonggeihuoquzirentideyeliuhuoqiliudetiji、yalideqixie(baokuodaikeduhuodandiankedudeqixie)deng。

jizhe:wojuede,oumengwenjianzhongsuozhide“daiyoucelianggongnengdeyiliaoqixie”,yuguonei《qiangjianmulu》zhongzhenzhengyongyulinchuangyixuejianyan,jitongshifuhe“yiliaoqixie”he“jiliangqiju”lianggedingyideyiqishebei,zaikoujingshanghaoxianghenyizhi。

|ag手机客户端二维码niufengqi:woyezhemerenwei,buguooumengwenjianzhongdebiaoshugengyanmi、xizhi。

jizhe:guanyu“jiliangqiju”he“yixuejiliangqiju”degainianjiranrucimingque,neiweishenmezhendui“yiyongsanyuan”shifoujiliangqijudezhengyizhijinshangweijiejueni?

|ag手机客户端二维码niufengqi:genbenyuanyinzaiyu,chikendingyijiande,huibiguanyu“jiliangqiju”dequanweidingyi,guzuoyoueryanta;erchifoudingyijiande,duixiangguangainianyouduoshiyizhibanjie。ruguodajiadouyiguojigongren,qiebeiguoneijiliangbumencaina,dingrujiliangjishuguifanjjf1001de“jiliangqiju”dingyiweizhun,bukenengdechulianggejieranxiangfandejielun。

jizhe:liqinggainiandemudezaiyuzhidaoshijian。jiran“yixueceliang”、“yixuejiliangxue”he“yixuejiliangqiju”sangegainiandouyouleshuofa,erqiedouyuanyujingdiandingyi,neiwomenshibushixianzaijiushijianyixia,qingningeifenxifenxi“yiyongsanyuan”duixiangguandingyidefuhexinghaoma?

|ag手机客户端二维码niufengqi:yiqitaolun。xianshuoshuowodekanfa。worenwei,anzhaoxiangguandingyi,suowei“yiyongsanyuan”kendingbushuyujiliangqijuheyixuejiliangqiju。yuanyinhenjiandan:diyi,jiliangbumenjieshishuo,tamensuochengde“yiyongsanyuan”,shizhichaosheng、jiguang、fushesandaleiyiliaoqixiezhengtijiegouzhongdechaoshengbo、jiguangheshexianfashebufen。zhejiushishuo,tamendouzhishibujian,bushi“qiju”,duiyubushi“qiju”dedongxi,taoluntamenshinaleiqijushimeiyouyiyide。dier,tamendoubujuyoucelianggongneng,buyongyuceliangmude,wanquanweibei“jiliangqiju”dingyi。disan,dandudefashebufenyewufayongyuyixuemude。

|ag手机客户端二维码jizhe:jukandengzaibenkantongyiqishangdezuozhezhoulitiandewenzhangcheng,《qiangjianmulu》zhongde“sanyuan”,yuanbenshibiaozhunfusheyuan(fushexiaoyanyuan)、biaozhunjiguangyuanhebiaozhunchaoshengyuan(chaoshengxiaoyanyuan)。jiran《qiangjianmulu》di37、40、41santiaodezhutishizhaosheliangji、jiguangnengliang(gonglv)jihechaoshenggonglvji,weishenmeyaoguashangzhesanzhong“yuan”,erqiefangzaikuohaozhongbingyong“han”zixiandingni?

|ag手机客户端二维码niufengqi:zhejiubushiyijuhuanenggoushuoqingdele。(1)shouxianshuosanzhong“biaozhunyuan”。jiliangjiezhuanyerenshizhidao,zhaosheliangji、jiguangnengliang(gonglv)ji、chaoshenggonglvjidengsanzhonggonglvji,fenbieshijianceyixuehegongyeyongfangsheshebei、jiguangshebei、chaoshengshebeishuchugonglvdejiliangqiju。fangzaijicenggongrichangshiyongdejiao“gongzuojiliangqiju”,fangzaiguojiazuigaojiliangjishujigou,yongyuduigongzuojiliangqijuzuojianding、xiaozhunde,jiao“jizhunjiliangqiju”。danjianding、xiaozhundoulibukai“biaozhunyuan”。suowei“biaozhunyuan”,jiushianzhaoxiangguanguifanzhizuo,nenggoufashexilieliangzhifushe、jiguang、chaoshengxinhaodebiaozhunxinhaoyuan。jianding、xiaozhundejutichengxushi:shouxianyongguojiajizhunqijucechuyuxilieshurudianyaduiyingdefushe、jiguang、chaoshengshuchuxinhaodegonglv,ranhouyonggongzuoqijuzuoxiangyingceliang,yigongzuoqijusuodezhiyujizhunqijusuodezhidefuhechengduduiqizhunqueduhekeyongxingzuochupingjia。jianyuqizhongyaoxing,woguozhuanmenzhidingyouzhenduibiaozhunyuanjiliyongjizhunqiju、biaozhunyuanjianding、xiaozhungongzuoqijudejishubiaozhunhejiandingguicheng。(2)jiuxiangxiaoyantianpingsuoyongdebiaozhunfamayiyang,biaozhunyuansuiranzhongyao,dantamenzhishifuzhuyongpin,bingbuzaiguojigongrendejiliangqijumingdanzhong。zaiguojiheguowaiwenxianzhong,yemeiyouxiangguoneide《qiangjianmulu》neiyangbabiaozhunyuanliezaigonglvjihoumiankuohaozhongde。(3)suiranmeiyouguojixianli,dankaolvdaosanzhongbiaozhunyuanyusanzhonggonglvjidemiqieguanxi,zuoweigezidefuzhuyongpinzhushizaikuohaozhongyekeyilijie。buguo,anzhao《xiandaihanyucidian》zhongdejieshi,“han”zideyisishi“baokuozainei”。biaozhunyuanbingfeigonglvjidejiegoubujian,yong“han”zishibuhelide,yinggaiyong“fu”zi。

jizhe:ba“biaozhunyuan”gaichengle“yiyongyuan”,huanshuodetongma?

niufengqi:dangranshuobutong。xiangxiangkan,jiranshichaosheng、jiguang、fusheleiyiliaoshebeizhongdenengliangfashebufen,zenmehuitongshiyoushichaoshenggonglvji、jiguanggonglv(nengliang)jihezhaosheliangjidejiegoubujian,huozhechengweitamendefuzhushebeini?xianranjibuheluoji,youweibeishishi。

jizhe:wohentongyinindefenxihejielun。buguohuanyouyizhongyijianrenwei,chaosheng、jiguang、fusheleiyiliaoshebei,youqishiqizhongdeyingxiangxingzhenduanshebei,shijuyoumouxiecelianggongnengde,suoyishuyujiliangqiju。ninrenweizhezhongshuofaduima?

niufengqi:woyecengjingzheyangrenwei。danjinyibuxuexiyihoufaxian,zhezhonglijieshipianmiande。qishi,zixizhuomozhuomoguojigongrende“jiliangqiju”dingyiheoumengwenjianzhongde“daiyoucelianggongnengdeyiliaoqixie”dedingyi,jiubunanyishidao,tamendoushijiushebeizhengtihuozhengjieryande。yingxiangxingzhenduanshebeisuiranjuyoumouxiecelianggongneng,dandoushiguochengxing、jubuxingde。zhizaoshangdemudeheshebeidezhengjigongyongbingbushiyongyulinchuangceliang。zaizhe,duiyuceliangyiqihuochengjiliangqiju,shouyaoyaoqiushiliangzhizhunque;erduilinchuangzhenduanshebei,shouyaoyaoqiushifaxianhejianchubingzaodenengli,qicishiyingxiangsuojiandezhenshixing,disancaishidingxing、dingliangdefenxizonghenengli。zhengyinweiruci,chuzhongguozhiwai,qitaguojia,youqishijuyoucankaojiazhideoumeifadaguojia,conglaimeiyoubachaosheng、jiguang、fusheyiliaoshebeiliewei“measuring instrument”de。

jizhe:guanyu“yiyongsanyuan”wentidezhenglunhuanmeijiejue,xianzaiyouzujianle“yixuejiliang”he“linchuangyixuejiliang”lianggejishuweiyuanhui,shibishijumiangengweifuza。duici,ninyoushenmehaodejianyi?

牛鳳岐:這也是我所擔心的。所以我建議:(1)首先要把醫學測量、醫學計量學、醫學計量器具等核心概念界定清楚,為此必須遵循科學、準確、公正的原則,不能搞“想當然”。(2)其界定涉及多個部門領域和全國人民權益,應該由密切相關的計量、醫療器械、醫療衛生主管部門會同進行,并在全國范圍內通過網絡和紙質形式征求意見。(3)“醫學計量器具”中的“醫學”只是個用場,所測理化參數的學科歸屬才是更本質的東西,應該按此歸類和管理。
 

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